{"id":906,"date":"2017-01-27T20:58:18","date_gmt":"2017-01-28T02:58:18","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/iseeancestors.com\/comm\/?p=906"},"modified":"2017-03-31T14:02:22","modified_gmt":"2017-03-31T20:02:22","slug":"great-grandmother-mary-pohl","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/iSeeAncestors.com\/comm\/2017\/01\/27\/great-grandmother-mary-pohl\/","title":{"rendered":"Great-grandmother Mary Pohl"},"content":{"rendered":"<figure id=\"attachment_913\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-913\" style=\"width: 153px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"http:\/\/iseeancestors.com\/comm\/wp-content\/uploads\/001302.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-913\" src=\"http:\/\/iseeancestors.com\/comm\/wp-content\/uploads\/001302-153x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" height=\"300\" width=\"153\" srcset=\"https:\/\/iSeeAncestors.com\/comm\/wp-content\/uploads\/001302-153x300.jpg 153w, https:\/\/iSeeAncestors.com\/comm\/wp-content\/uploads\/001302-76x150.jpg 76w, https:\/\/iSeeAncestors.com\/comm\/wp-content\/uploads\/001302.jpg 308w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 153px) 85vw, 153px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-913\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Maria &#8220;Mary&#8221; Pohl, early 1940s<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>It happened again. This time Zsuzsanna J\u00e1cint contacted me with information about my ancestors. She lives in Hungary and it turns out we are distant cousins. My great-grandmother Mary (Bittner) Pohl (1867-1944) is the younger sister of her great great-grandmother, Julianna (Bittner) Szeidl (~1857-1916).<\/p>\n<p>Zsuzsi even provided an image of the elusive marriage record of Mary to Albert Pohl, for which I\u2019ve searched a long time. She provided Mary\u2019s birth record too. There\u2019s no doubt now about the parents of both Mary and Albert.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_907\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-907\" style=\"width: 695px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/iseeancestors.com\/comm\/wp-content\/uploads\/001720.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-large wp-image-907\" src=\"http:\/\/iseeancestors.com\/comm\/wp-content\/uploads\/001720-1024x455.jpg\" alt=\"\" height=\"309\" width=\"695\" srcset=\"https:\/\/iSeeAncestors.com\/comm\/wp-content\/uploads\/001720-1024x455.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/iSeeAncestors.com\/comm\/wp-content\/uploads\/001720-150x67.jpg 150w, https:\/\/iSeeAncestors.com\/comm\/wp-content\/uploads\/001720-300x133.jpg 300w, https:\/\/iSeeAncestors.com\/comm\/wp-content\/uploads\/001720-768x341.jpg 768w, https:\/\/iSeeAncestors.com\/comm\/wp-content\/uploads\/001720.jpg 1125w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 709px) 85vw, (max-width: 909px) 67vw, (max-width: 984px) 61vw, (max-width: 1362px) 45vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-907\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Marriage record for Albert G. &#8220;B\u00e9la&#8221; Pohl and M\u00e1ria &#8220;Mary&#8221; (Bittner) Pohl.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Great-grandmother M\u00e1ria \u201cMary\u201d (Bittner) Pohl was born and baptized January 27, 1867 near P\u00e9cs, Hungary. (She emigrated to America in 1893.) Her parents were Istv\u00e1n \u201cStephan\u201d Bittner and M\u00e1ria Turek. Not much is known about Stephan Bittner and his ancestors. Zsuzsi thinks the family lived for a time in Serbia. Her great great-grandmother Julianna (Bittner) Szeidl was probably born in Majdanpek, Serbia.<\/p>\n<p>M\u00e1ria Turek and her ancestors came from Szomolnok, which was part of Hungary at that time, but is now known as Smoln\u00edk, Slovakia. <span id='easy-footnote-1-906' class='easy-footnote-margin-adjust'><\/span><span class='easy-footnote'><a href='https:\/\/iSeeAncestors.com\/comm\/2017\/01\/27\/great-grandmother-mary-pohl\/#easy-footnote-bottom-1-906' title='E\u00f6tv\u00f6s Lor\u00e1nd Tudom\u00e1nyegyetem, E\u00f6tv\u00f6s Lor\u00e1nd University, Department of Cartography and Geoinformatics (&lt;a href=&quot;http:\/\/lazarus.elte.hu\/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http:\/\/lazarus.elte.hu\/&lt;\/a&gt; : downloaded 18 January 2017), Third Military Mapping Survey of Austria-Hungary (Map Index: &lt;a href=&quot;http:\/\/lazarus.elte.hu\/hun\/digkonyv\/topo\/3felmeres.htm&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http:\/\/lazarus.elte.hu\/hun\/digkonyv\/topo\/3felmeres.htm&lt;\/a&gt;; St. P\u00f6lten: &lt;a href=&quot;http:\/\/lazarus.elte.hu\/hun\/digkonyv\/topo\/200e\/33-48.jpg&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http:\/\/lazarus.elte.hu\/hun\/digkonyv\/topo\/200e\/33-48.jpg&lt;\/a&gt;), n.d.'><sup>1<\/sup><\/a><\/span> <span id='easy-footnote-2-906' class='easy-footnote-margin-adjust'><\/span><span class='easy-footnote'><a href='https:\/\/iSeeAncestors.com\/comm\/2017\/01\/27\/great-grandmother-mary-pohl\/#easy-footnote-bottom-2-906' title='Slovencina: Obec Smoln\u00edk okres Gelnica, rok 1998.&lt;br \/&gt;\n&lt;a href=&quot;https:\/\/commons.wikimedia.org\/wiki\/File:Smolnik10Slovakia1.jpg&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https:\/\/commons.wikimedia.org\/wiki\/File:Smolnik10Slovakia1.jpg&lt;\/a&gt;'><sup>2<\/sup><\/a><\/span>&nbsp; Zsuzsi provided the names, and dates of birth and marriage for these ancestors. With this help I was able to verify these easily with images of actual records.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_908\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-908\" style=\"width: 880px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/iseeancestors.com\/comm\/wp-content\/uploads\/001724.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-908 size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/iseeancestors.com\/comm\/wp-content\/uploads\/001724.jpg\" height=\"977\" width=\"880\" srcset=\"https:\/\/iSeeAncestors.com\/comm\/wp-content\/uploads\/001724.jpg 880w, https:\/\/iSeeAncestors.com\/comm\/wp-content\/uploads\/001724-135x150.jpg 135w, https:\/\/iSeeAncestors.com\/comm\/wp-content\/uploads\/001724-270x300.jpg 270w, https:\/\/iSeeAncestors.com\/comm\/wp-content\/uploads\/001724-768x853.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 709px) 85vw, (max-width: 909px) 67vw, (max-width: 1362px) 62vw, 840px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-908\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">A map showing the vicinity of Szomolnok, Hungary, which is today Smoln\u00edk, Slovakia.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure id=\"attachment_909\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-909\" style=\"width: 695px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/iseeancestors.com\/comm\/wp-content\/uploads\/Smolnik.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-909 size-large\" src=\"http:\/\/iseeancestors.com\/comm\/wp-content\/uploads\/Smolnik-1024x703.jpg\" height=\"477\" width=\"695\" srcset=\"https:\/\/iSeeAncestors.com\/comm\/wp-content\/uploads\/Smolnik-1024x703.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/iSeeAncestors.com\/comm\/wp-content\/uploads\/Smolnik-150x103.jpg 150w, https:\/\/iSeeAncestors.com\/comm\/wp-content\/uploads\/Smolnik-300x206.jpg 300w, https:\/\/iSeeAncestors.com\/comm\/wp-content\/uploads\/Smolnik-768x527.jpg 768w, https:\/\/iSeeAncestors.com\/comm\/wp-content\/uploads\/Smolnik.jpg 1580w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 709px) 85vw, (max-width: 909px) 67vw, (max-width: 984px) 61vw, (max-width: 1362px) 45vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-909\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Smoln\u00edk, Slovakia, 1998.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>There is a discrepancy with the surname Bittner. Zsuzsi thinks the name is actually Pittner, which agrees with what my aunt Letha Alexander thought it was. However a preponderance of the birth and marriage records over several years indicates \u201cBittner\u201d while a few records do show \u201cPittner.\u201d It is possible the names could be used interchangeably, but I\u2019ve chosen to use \u201cBittner\u201d until more compelling evidence is found.<\/p>\n<p>Albert Pohl was born in Setzdorf, in what was then Austrian Silesia. Today it is known as V\u00e1penn\u00e1, in the Czech Republic. <span id='easy-footnote-3-906' class='easy-footnote-margin-adjust'><\/span><span class='easy-footnote'><a href='https:\/\/iSeeAncestors.com\/comm\/2017\/01\/27\/great-grandmother-mary-pohl\/#easy-footnote-bottom-3-906' title='E\u00f6tv\u00f6s Lor\u00e1nd Tudom\u00e1nyegyetem, E\u00f6tv\u00f6s Lor\u00e1nd University, Department of Cartography and Geoinformatics (&lt;a href=&quot;http:\/\/lazarus.elte.hu\/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http:\/\/lazarus.elte.hu\/&lt;\/a&gt; : downloaded 18 January 2017), Third Military Mapping Survey of Austria-Hungary (Map Index: &lt;a href=&quot;http:\/\/lazarus.elte.hu\/hun\/digkonyv\/topo\/3felmeres.htm&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http:\/\/lazarus.elte.hu\/hun\/digkonyv\/topo\/3felmeres.htm&lt;\/a&gt;; Leutschau: &lt;a href=&quot;http:\/\/lazarus.elte.hu\/hun\/digkonyv\/topo\/200e\/35-50.jpg&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http:\/\/lazarus.elte.hu\/hun\/digkonyv\/topo\/200e\/35-50.jpg&lt;\/a&gt;), 1914.'><sup>3<\/sup><\/a><\/span> Albert\u2019s parents were Albert Pohl and Sophia Rohr. They accompanied their son to Szabolcs and Albert senior died there in 1896 well after Albert junior had emigrated to America.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_944\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-944\" style=\"width: 695px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/iseeancestors.com\/comm\/wp-content\/uploads\/001860-01.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-large wp-image-944\" src=\"http:\/\/iseeancestors.com\/comm\/wp-content\/uploads\/001860-01-1024x788.jpg\" alt=\"\" height=\"535\" width=\"695\" srcset=\"https:\/\/iSeeAncestors.com\/comm\/wp-content\/uploads\/001860-01-1024x788.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/iSeeAncestors.com\/comm\/wp-content\/uploads\/001860-01-150x115.jpg 150w, https:\/\/iSeeAncestors.com\/comm\/wp-content\/uploads\/001860-01-300x231.jpg 300w, https:\/\/iSeeAncestors.com\/comm\/wp-content\/uploads\/001860-01-768x591.jpg 768w, https:\/\/iSeeAncestors.com\/comm\/wp-content\/uploads\/001860-01.jpg 1100w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 709px) 85vw, (max-width: 909px) 67vw, (max-width: 984px) 61vw, (max-width: 1362px) 45vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-944\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The vicinity of Setzdorf in Austrian Silesia, northwest of Freiwaldau (Jesen\u00edk, Czech Republic)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure id=\"attachment_945\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-945\" style=\"width: 695px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/iseeancestors.com\/comm\/wp-content\/uploads\/hlavicka_webu2.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-large wp-image-945\" src=\"http:\/\/iseeancestors.com\/comm\/wp-content\/uploads\/hlavicka_webu2-1024x272.jpg\" alt=\"V\u00e1penn\u00e1, Czech Republic\" height=\"185\" width=\"695\" srcset=\"https:\/\/iSeeAncestors.com\/comm\/wp-content\/uploads\/hlavicka_webu2-1024x272.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/iSeeAncestors.com\/comm\/wp-content\/uploads\/hlavicka_webu2-150x40.jpg 150w, https:\/\/iSeeAncestors.com\/comm\/wp-content\/uploads\/hlavicka_webu2-300x80.jpg 300w, https:\/\/iSeeAncestors.com\/comm\/wp-content\/uploads\/hlavicka_webu2-768x204.jpg 768w, https:\/\/iSeeAncestors.com\/comm\/wp-content\/uploads\/hlavicka_webu2.jpg 1100w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 709px) 85vw, (max-width: 909px) 67vw, (max-width: 984px) 61vw, (max-width: 1362px) 45vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-945\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">V\u00e1penn\u00e1, Czech Republic today (formerly Setzdorf, Austrian Silesia). [efn_note]<a href=\"http:\/\/www.vapenna.cz\/index.php?id=uvod.php\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.vapenna.cz\/index.php?id=uvod.php<\/a>[\/efn_note]<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Thanks to cousin Zsuzsi, this is a wealth of information that extends my maternal family line. I now know of my great great-grandmother, M\u00e1ria Turek (1827-1898), and back at least to the names of some of my fifth great-grandparents from the mid-eighteenth century: G\u00e1sp\u00e1r and Anna M\u00e1ria Turek, \u00c1d\u00e1m and Erzs\u00e9bet Sztraka, J\u00e1nos Gy\u00f6rgy and Marianna Kremniczky, and Frigyes and Dorottya Topschak.&nbsp; See more details starting with the <a href=\"http:\/\/iseeancestors.com\/tree\/groups\/public\/grp00007.html\" target=\"_blank\">Albert and Mary Pohl<\/a> family group sheet.<\/p>\n<p>This discovery is all the more fitting just before the twenty-fifth anniversary of the death of my mother, Ruth (Stewart) Voisin. I know she too would be thrilled to learn of them.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/iseeancestors.com\/comm\/wp-content\/uploads\/Pedigree.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-912\" src=\"http:\/\/iseeancestors.com\/comm\/wp-content\/uploads\/Pedigree.jpg\" alt=\"\" height=\"821\" width=\"684\" srcset=\"https:\/\/iSeeAncestors.com\/comm\/wp-content\/uploads\/Pedigree.jpg 684w, https:\/\/iSeeAncestors.com\/comm\/wp-content\/uploads\/Pedigree-125x150.jpg 125w, https:\/\/iSeeAncestors.com\/comm\/wp-content\/uploads\/Pedigree-250x300.jpg 250w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 709px) 85vw, (max-width: 909px) 67vw, (max-width: 984px) 61vw, (max-width: 1362px) 45vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It happened again. This time Zsuzsanna J\u00e1cint contacted me with information about my ancestors. She lives in Hungary and it turns out we are distant cousins. My great-grandmother Mary (Bittner) Pohl (1867-1944) is the younger sister of her great great-grandmother, Julianna (Bittner) Szeidl (~1857-1916). Zsuzsi even provided an image of the elusive marriage record of &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/iSeeAncestors.com\/comm\/2017\/01\/27\/great-grandmother-mary-pohl\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Great-grandmother Mary Pohl&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":309,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"ngg_post_thumbnail":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[53,15,54,9,77],"tags":[120,104,121,29],"class_list":["post-906","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-hungary","category-life-and-times","category-maternal-ancestors","category-surname-pohl","category-surname-stewart","tag-bittner","tag-hungary","tag-pittner","tag-pohl"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/iSeeAncestors.com\/comm\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/906","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/iSeeAncestors.com\/comm\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/iSeeAncestors.com\/comm\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/iSeeAncestors.com\/comm\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/309"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/iSeeAncestors.com\/comm\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=906"}],"version-history":[{"count":10,"href":"https:\/\/iSeeAncestors.com\/comm\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/906\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":946,"href":"https:\/\/iSeeAncestors.com\/comm\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/906\/revisions\/946"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/iSeeAncestors.com\/comm\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=906"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/iSeeAncestors.com\/comm\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=906"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/iSeeAncestors.com\/comm\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=906"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}